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I changed a few things about the historical difference between a waterschap and a hoogheemraadschap. I have tried to provide sources where possible, but please feel free to challenge any questionable statements. The part on the "association" of several ambachten was only partially correct: yes, they did "associate", after they were forced to do so by Floris V and his successors. Many, if not most, hoogheemraaschappen were founded by charter of the ruling Count of Holland, although this is difficult to "prove" without giving a long list of examples. An impression can be gained from the coats of arms of these hoogheemraadschappen, which often feature attributes that indicate that these bodies derive their authority directly from the Count of Holland or from Emperor Charles V. Pbech (talk) 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Waterschap Waterschap Rivierenland ?[edit]

Is this a typo or is it really called Waterschap Waterschap? 66.236.159.165 (talk) 15:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I checked their website, and it is just one Waterschap. I'll change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.174.208.83 (talk) 14:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change in English name[edit]

I see that someone in the Dutch government has apparently decided that the English term for "waterschap" is now "regional water authority". And someone has introduced that change to these pages. I'd like to suggest a few guidelines about this: 1. If officials have indicated their preference for a certain English translation, it might help if a reference or authority were provided for this change, given that dictionaries are still using the old terms and the fact that the title of the article is "water board". 2. Government jargon is ordinarily not immediately accepted by all English speakers and Wikipedia users as conventional language, especially for such an ancient institution. 3. There is no evidence that English speakers are now using "regional water authority" for "waterschap", especially when dictionaries still suggest the name "water board". In English, usage and convention determines whether a term is used, not the government. 4. Any government mandated English translation is unofficial (given that the Netherlands is a unilingual Dutch-speaking nation), but this preferred choice (if properly referenced) could be included in the article and explained. 5. Government mandated translations (if that indeed is what happened) should not be applied to historical references to "waterschap". To refer to the "Delft Regional Water Authority" in the 17th century is a retroactive application of 21st century jargon. Best to use the Dutch term. Schildewaert (talk) 00:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

25 or 26 waterboards ?[edit]

The map shows 26 waterboards whereas 25 waterboards are mentionned --Laurentleap (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The difference is "Waterschap Blija Buitendijks", which according to the page "merged with Wetterskip Fryslân". I have requested a citation as I couldn't find anything on that. On the other hand, it is not a very likely vandalistic action to change something like this... So any help with sourcing would be appreciated! L.tak (talk) 23:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the map to the 2014 version in the Dutch article, and synced the list in the text with it. There are currently (2014) 24 water boards. Maybe this discussion can be closed and deleted. Jeroen (talk) 00:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]