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Guatemala can't move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem as stated in the article, simply besause the embassy isn't located in Tel Aviv. It's on Medinat ha-Yehudim Street 103, Hertzliya. – JohnnyWiki (talk) 15:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Country Name[edit]

Please change the name of "Macedonia" to "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia", as is the politically correct name of the country. Thanks. Mabo99 (talk) 16:12, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Guatemala[edit]

In reactions, Argentina (which redirects to Argentina at the World Cup) should have been Guatemala as for Argentina has the flag of Guatemala next to it, and the reaction of Argentina has the reaction of the President of Guatemala on it. Chxeese (talk) 21:33, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 April 2022[edit]

This edit request to United Nations General Assembly resolution ES-10/L.22 has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

The title of the resolution is wrong in every reference in this article, including in the title of the article. The referenced resolution is the draft resolution, but we need to reference the actually adopted resolution, which is: ES-10/19 (code: A/RES/ES-10/19). The link is also to the draft resolution and needs to be replaced with: [1]https://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/RES/ES-10/19

Further, to avoid confusion, the draft resolution page (ES-10/L.22) should be a direct and permanent redirect to the renamed page.

Additionally, for consistency purposes, the "result" field should be changed to just "Resolution adopted" in order to be consistent with all other UN General Assembly resolution articles. CrazyPredictor (talk) 14:11, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: @CrazyPredictor: I have reservations implementing most of these edits without wider discussion. First, in the absence of a clear precedent or a project-related guideline about naming such articles the change to "ES-10/19" appears to be mostly a question of preference. More specific to this case however, the content of the article appears to focus on the resolution primarily before its adoption, or in other words, the drafted resolution. The "Reactions" section might be the only portion that emphasizes the topic in its adopted form. If the focus of the article were to shift to the impact of the resolution as adopted I could see this being much more compelling.

Despite my reservations, there's nothing stopping these edits if a consensus emerges to make them. To that end I've posted a note about this request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United Nations#Article naming for UN resolutions. If that fails to generate discussion, you could consider requesting a page move to draw more attention to this edit.

I did update the infobox as requested but incidentally, a spot check of other pages shows the consistency may not be very widespread. See United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19, United Nations General Assembly resolution ES-10/L.23, United Nations Security Council Resolution 1706 --N8_wilson 🔔 16:10, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@N8wilson: Thanks for the partial adoption and for posting a note about this request.

Also note that when I made the request the "result" field actually had "Recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital as "null and void"" in it rather than "Adopted". So the main goal of the request was fixing that rather than the change from "Adopted" -> "Resolution adopted" which is also OK.

As per this page dealing with the draft resolution: That's completely correct, however the draft resolution is fully identical to the adopted resolution meaning that all draft resolution discussion/Reactions etc. is fully applicable to the final adopted resolution and in my opinion it would only be consistent and logical to do as we have done with other adopted resolutions. That would be to focus the article on the actually adopted resolution name. I am hoping we can generate consensus on this. CrazyPredictor (talk) 19:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done Yeah ok- given these are identical this seems like less of a discussion-worthy topic. As part of WP:POSTMOVE, I noticed the default sort key is currently set to United Nations General Assembly resolution 72 240 which obviously doesn't match either the draft or adopted nomenclature discussed above. Unless I hear otherwise I'll assume this has some other useful purpose in page sorting and doesn't need to align with the document codes since it wasn't aligned to start with.

The "results" request makes much more sense in context! For future requests, this is one reason it's helpful to have the request in the "change X to Y" format: it could have saved me some time to see this portion was (essentially) already done.

Thanks for productive discussion here CrazyPredictor. I think that wraps this up but please cross-check and ping me if I've missed anything. Cheers! --N8_wilson 🔔 21:25, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@N8wilson Thanks for the changes!

There are a few follow-up corrections I would suggest:

Replace the dead "document" link in the infobox with this: https://undocs.org/A/RES/ES-10/19 (inline with other recent resolution links)
I believe that we should at least change "draft resolution" → "resolution" in the summary text on the very top of the page

Other than that, it all looks good, and I already updated the reference to this article in United Nations General Assembly resolution. CrazyPredictor (talk) 21:46, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed (diff) --N8_wilson 🔔 21:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]