Talk:That's All Right

That's All Right or That's Alright?

I guess it's the first one, if you take a look at the Elvis cover of his single. But I'm sure the two ways of writing can be found on Wikipedia... Change them all would be a lot of work for my own. Should it be done or let it be this way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.146.241.133 (talk) 17:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Removal of "Covers" list?

Does anyone else feel that this particular section could be trimmed down considerably or perhaps even removed altogether? Other than Crudup's original version of this song and Presley's version, I don't think many others are notable. ElvisFan1981 (talk) 22:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I guess, as no one seems interested, the cover versions should be removed. No references, all "listed" and most of the versions are practically unheard of except amongst fans of the particular artist and/or album. ElvisFan1981 (talk) 23:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I think cover versions of "That's All Right" are interesting. It's an iconic Elvis Presley song. I think there are people who may be interested in listening to the song by other artists; however, anyone can do a search for the song and find other artists who have covered the song. I think it's enough to just say that many artists have recorded the song. I'm going to remove the entire section.Starsmark (talk) 23:40, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

How much is OK?

So how did it do on the charts...? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 23:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Precursor(s) to this song?

"If I get lucky", recorded in Chicago on 11th September 1941 by Arthur Crudup as a straight blues number, begins with the words "That's all right mama, that's all right by you, That's all right mama, that's all right by you, treat me lowdown and dirty any old way you do". Crudup is cited as the composer of the piece. This song has none of the structure nor the instrumentation of either of Crudup's later versions of the better known "That's All Right Mama" or "I don't Know It". The title line of "If I get Lucky", only appears at the end of the song; interestingly, though, there appears to be a completely different, much later (1960s) version of If I get lucky, in which the song begins: "If I get lucky mama, win my train fare home...".

In addition Mean Old Frisco Blues, recorded on the same date (11th Sept 1941) contains the lines: "Well, my mama she done told me, and my papa told me, too Well, my mama she done told me, and my papa told me, too, Son, every woman grins in your face, so she ain't no friend to you."

Unfortunately I can't find anyone who has actually noted this before, so this is probably original research.

Nonetheless, perhaps this is worth a mention?--TonyFleet (talk) 14:21, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Maybe. This also mentions a similarity to Lemon Jefferson's "Black Snake Moan" - but it's maybe a little tenuous. Obviously, a lot of blues musicians copied each other's styles, tunes and lyrics without much regard for things like copyright! Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:39, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

OKAY!!, just listened again to Black Snake Moan. Not only is the melody very similar to TARM, but towards the end of the song, Lemon sings: "Mama, that's all right, mama, that's all right for you x2, say baby that's all right, most any old way you do". The version I have was recorded Chicago, March 14 1927 lyrics and song here . Clearly this predates the Leroy Carr/Scrapper Blackwell song below.--TonyFleet (talk) 22:21, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

"Cloudy Sky Blues" by Barbecue Bob (recorded Atlanta 25th March 1927) also contains similar lines, and has a melody very similar to TARM. It is unlikely that BB copied the BLJ version 10 days later, as they were hundreds of miles apart. Clearly these guys borrowed from one another very heavily prior to this, and so the suspicion must be that the 'original' of this predates all of them.--TonyFleet (talk) 12:29, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Leroy Carr and Scrapper Blackwell recorded a "That's All Right for You" in 1929: "That's all right mama, that's all right for you (2X), You mistreat me mama, do anything you want to do", although with a different melody and tempo. Appears to be a floating verse, but can't find a source. -Ojorojo (talk) 18:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

In addition, "Down South Blues" by Dock Boggs contains the lines:

Oh my mama told me,

And my daddy told me too, Don't you go off, honey,

Let those men make a fool out of you

Not sure of the date of this one, but it's definitely part of his original 12 1927-29 recordings. However, this website claims that it was recorded in 1927. --TonyFleet (talk) 13:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

"Barbecue Blues" by Barbecue Bob recorded in March '27 has similar lines. --TonyFleet (talk) 12:30, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Joe Turner's 1938 Version

There is a recording of Joe Turner singing "It's All Right Baby", from December 1938 (see http://www.last.fm/music/Big+Joe+Turner/_/It%27s+All+Right+Baby ). This is clearly the song on which TARM was based. It begins .. "That all right baby, that's all right for you x2,", but the main issue here is that on my CD (PLCD 551 President Records), Turner & Johnson are credited with penning this number. Unfortunately I can't find any other source to back any of this this up, and the lyrics do not appear to be published anywhere. The nearest I can find is this analysis: http://people.virginia.edu/~skd9r/MUSI212_new/diagrams/its_all_right_baby.html. If anyone has a good source for this, I think it should be included.

In addition, on the same CD, there is yet another another version of TARM from Arthur Crudup, this time called Dirt Road Blues, which the sleeve notes claim was recorded in 1945, and if correct, would therefore predate either of the 1946 versions of the song. To listen to a section of this version, see http://www.shazam.com/music/web/track?id=10052690. The song does in fact contain the lines "That's all right now mama , that's all right for you , that's all right now, any way you do" , as the second verse. --TonyFleet (talk) 10:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

The 1938 version by Joe Turner and Pete Johnson was recorded live at Carnegie Hall, at the From Spirituals to Swing concert on 23 December 1938. More information here. The authorship seems to me to be no big deal - it was common practice at the time for musicians making their own arrangements of traditional songs, which was the case here, to have their names credited as writers. It certainly should be added into the article - although I have the recording on CD, it's a long time since I'd played it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:11, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

The 1936 song: Boogie Woogie (I may be wrong) by Count Basie appears to be what Joe Turner and Pete Johnson used for their version of 'It's all right baby' . The tune is exactly the same, and the lyrics contain the words: "That' alright baby, that's alright for you x2, now it's obvious to you bably, that's the way you do" It is cited here as 1936.--TonyFleet (talk) 18:47, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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