Talk:Suicides at the Golden Gate Bridge

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safety net updates[edit]

This article needs attention from someone who is aware of the recent updates to the suicide safety net. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefox226G (talk • contribs) 06:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Murder-suicides[edit]

There are two incidents on here that are murder-suicides, I think they need their own section lower down on the page.97.102.61.193 (talk) 16:06, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The section header is titled inclusively, therefore, no separate section is necessary. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:53, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Survival rate higher than 98% on hitting the water[edit]

Surely more than 98% of people survive the impact with the water.

The death rate might be 98% but that is most likely from being unable to swim to shore while injured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.155.232.208 (talk) 11:31, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The wording is accurate according the accompanying source cited. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:05, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Language use, "committed" vs. "completed" or "died by"[edit]

Most of the general public uses the term "committed suicide". While it is common, is hurtful to the community of those affected by suicide. Criminals commit crimes. Despite suicide being technically a crime in some places, individuals under these circumstances should not be labeled as such. I am respectfully adamant that the language "committed" be changed on this page to "died by"[1] [2] or some say "completed" [3] to respect individuals and their loved ones. This particular page is a very popular one and it is important that the more people who see the example of proper language so it spreads. I am personally a mental health trained advocate who works directly with individuals struggling with suicide and friends and family of individuals who have died by suicide. I have also provided citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clairebear927 (talk • contribs) 02:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how "popular" this article is, or how you came to that conclusion, Clairebear927. If you have some knowledge or statistical insight I don't, I'd be interested in seeing it. As far as the wording: we go by what the sources say. And in regard to those committing suicide at the bridge, "committed" is typically used. We don't censor Wikipedia because a fringe faction of individuals might get offended and we don't write content supported or not supported by a particular agenda or point of view. We also don't write content to support an agenda that is promoting new way of thinking. This is an online encyclopedia that contains facts supported by non-biased, reliable sources -- it's not a therapy group and it's not a website supporting causes and various agendas. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 02:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I can see that the topic is likely to be emotional for many. I've tried to do move the opening text a bit closer to the available citations,[1] and to explicitly |quote= the citation for the opening sentence in the WP:LEAD. I hope this is valuable to all concerned. —Sladen (talk) 08:16, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.suicide.org/stop-saying-committed-suicide.html
  2. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_terminology
  3. ^ http://www.preventsuicidepa.org/about-suicide

Fatal incidents[edit]

I went ahead and tried for another new heading [2]. Having “fatal” as a description of a handful of incidents out of thousands of also fatal incidents makes no sense at all and also seems to imply that these are the only fatal incidents, which obviously isn’t true. I’m fine trying to find another descriptor if people think it truly necessary, but the word fatal here should go. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Simply "incidents" is fine by me. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:59, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Removed lead section sentence on ranking of suicide sites[edit]

I removed the following: The Golden Gate bridge's death toll has since been surpassed only by that of the Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge in China.[1] The citation is a profile of a man who prevents suicides on the Yangtze River Bridge. It says nothing about the Golden Gate Bridge. I have not found another citation for this ranking. Chris vLS (talk) 15:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Paul Mooney (July 8, 2008). "A voice of reason on Yangtze bridge". Retrieved January 10, 2015.

The efforts for prevention are more notable than the single incidents.[edit]

Unless there's an objection, I am going to move these sections to the top. Chris vLS (talk) 02:21, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wording modifications[edit]

In keeping with MOS:SUICIDE, I have changed some wording to remove the use of the word "committing". Please discuss here if you feel this is incorrect. Thanks! DoctorMatt (talk) 00:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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