Talk:Soviet aircraft carrier Kiev

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Pronouns[edit]

He not a She.

He's a russian ship, so would be a he not a she. Russian thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.189.133 (talk) 09:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a Russian-language site. The English-language convention used for ships is "she", regardless of country or origin. I actually prefer the grammatically correct it, as it would avoid national preference arguments, but I'm not going to get my way on that either. - BillCJ (talk) 09:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this be aircraft carrying cruiser instad of Aircraft carrier?[edit]

It says that it is called such by the Russians and on top of that the footnote says that it is a correct discription. Why insist on calling it a carrier? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.214.57.217 (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cuz we smartass Russians only ever called it an aircraft-carrying cruiser to save face, due to an earlier propaganda campaign about carriers being the ultimate imperialist weapon for neo-colonial oppression. That made us feel WAY more righteous and all-around better about our decidedly innocent and ideologically true selves. Aadieu (talk) 02:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is also the reason of wanting to work around the limitations of the Montreux Convention on aircraft carriers (see § Aircraft carriers). — Saxifrage ✎ 18:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Objectivity[edit]

Sad how no one is even able to go to the Chinese web to find the (now) corporate web page of the ship. The article is dated from 2011; Shame on the editors who participated. No blame on the Russians since this is an English-language portal, please. Dark Liberty (talk) 06:30, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article was not written all at once in 2011. Feel free to add missing information with sources. — Saxifrage ✎ 18:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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