Talk:Shen (state)

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Disambiguation Badly Needed[edit]

There was also an important state of Shěn (沈) around the same era. Even worse Shēn (surname) reports that there were three separate states of Shēn (申), only the last of which was ruled by the Jiangs. Where's the info on the other two? — LlywelynII 11:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh[edit]

On the other hand, pinyin ≠ English. WP:MOS-ZH and WP:NC-ZH, not to mention WP:USEENGLISH WP:COMMONNAME, mean that this mess of diacretics need to be cleaned up except where they are pointedly essential, as with the Shěn/Shēn case above.

To the "but they're all essential" reposte: No. No, they're not. You simply can't distinguish Chinese from pinyin alone, so it's not a "solution" to a "problem" except in limited cases like Shěn/Shēn. The common English name in every case is the unaccented version; as long as the characters and tonal pinyin are available via hyperlink, it's correct. — LlywelynII 11:54, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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