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A fact from Roman Senate appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 June 2008, and was viewed approximately 1,724 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Conscript Fathers were senators drafted for the ancient Roman Senate much like conscription is a military draft?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2008/June.

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Untitled[edit]

There are some redundancies throughout this entry. I might do some clean-up. Thoughts? 70.62.254.122 (talk) 09:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for putting that here. Someone please delete the sixth paragraph (from the beginning) of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.32.243.185 (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom Senate[edit]

While it's important to include a section on the original Senate, it should be brief and only reflect what (little) is known. Unfortunately the author here has misunderstood the role of the early Senate which was simply the king's advisory council, and confused its powers and rights with those of the patrician clan chiefs. When a king died the right to take the auspices (ius auspicii) reverted to (and ONLY to) the patrician clan heads who met in conclave to choose the series of interreges who presided over the state (for five days each) until a new king was elected.
Also the Senate and senators were named nor from old age (senex, senectus) but from something slightly different: seniority or full adulthood, which began at 37 and the title of which was senior(es), as opposed to the younger men (under 37) who were called iunior(es). It would be a good idea not to make a major statement about these matters without being able to cite a source for it. .Appietas (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of the Senate[edit]

I added Livy's account of the creation of the Senate to the "Senate of the Roman Kingdom" section.

Livy's account is in direct conflict with the un-referenced comment at the top "...being founded before the first king of Rome ascended the throne (traditionally dated to 753 BC)."

Categorized as 'legislature'[edit]

This is something I'm just starting to disentangle for myself, but it's my understanding that technically the Roman senate was neither legislative nor parliamentarian; only the People could pass a law. The senate article is placed in the "Historical legislatures" category, however. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ref for little more than an advisory council to the king[edit]

I suggest that a reference for:

During the days of the kingdom, it was little more than an advisory council to the king^{[citation needed]}

Could be:

Cornell, Tim. 1995. The beginnings of Rome: Italy and Rome from the Bronze Age to the Punic Wars (c. 1000-264 BC). Routledge history of the ancient world. London: Routledge. pp. 248-250

Ronbarak (talk) 17:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for editing another's comment, but thought it would be better not to make this a footnote here. (Yes, a good likely source.) Cynwolfe (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

nonsense/vandalism?[edit]

This sentence is obviously incorrect/misspelled/nonsense

"However, the Eastern Senate survived in Constantinople, until the ancient institution finally vanished they’re c. 14th century.Rome was founded in 100 b.c and ended in 2035" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.119.204.117 (talk) 21:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing this up. It was vandalism added by an IP earlier today. I've reverted the edit. –72 (talk) 21:36, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Meaningless honorific"[edit]

This article states that the title 'Senator' persisted as a "meaningless honorific" into the medieval period (once in the introduction and again in the post-Imperial section), but gives no source. A citation needed notice was given in February 2013. Perhaps it's time to delete the phrase. In any case, the phrase makes little sense - a meaningless honorific is not an honorific. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.42.67.220 (talk) 15:51, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Missing section[edit]

This article needs to discuss the nature of its membership -- the Senatorial order. The requirements to be a senator (primarily financial, although luck of birth helped), the duties & privileges, & the role of the Roman census & adlection. -- llywrch (talk) 18:21, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Senate of the Roman Empire[edit]

What is the difference between this page and the Senate of the Roman Empire? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ΑνδρόνικοςΠαλαιολόγος (talk • contribs) 05:30, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]