Talk:Ottoman–Safavid War (1623–1639)

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Requested move 10 September 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) PC78 (talk) 22:50, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Ottoman–Safavid War (1623–1639)Ottoman–Persian War (1623–1639) – The "Ottoman" Empire is the name of an empire, the "Safavids" is only name of the ruling dynasty. Same should be done about Ottoman–Safavid War (1532–1555), Ottoman–Safavid War (1578–1590) and Ottoman–Safavid War (1603–1618). Aryzad (talk) 23:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I'm pretty sure that "Ottoman" is the name of a dynasty as well (Ottoman dynasty) and that "Safavid" is the name of an empire as well (Safavid Empire, and sources such as "Iran and the World in the Safavid Age"). If anything I would say it should be moved to "Ottoman–Iranian war", as academic sources do support that spelling, which is historically more accurate than that of "Persia(n)". --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@HistoryofIran: "The Safavid Empire" is an academic term, not a historical one. While the Ottoman Empire was the official name of that empire. I'm okay with the "Ottoman–Iranian Wars", however, I think using one term (Persian) for all of the wars involving the so-called Persian empires (like the Greco–Persian Wars, etc) is better than use two different terms. Aryzad (talk) 00:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You contradict yourself. If we were to use historical terms, then that would indeed be "Iranian" (which is an widely used academic term as well, especially nowadays), not "Persian". --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:14, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am okay with that. Aryzad (talk) 00:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose both suggestions (Iranian even more strongly than Persian). Srnec (talk) 02:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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