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Most flags of the Regions have been changed since around 2010. Even the Yangon Region flag have been changed twice: first in circa 2010 and then recently 2021.
To update new flag (and seal)
Flags of every Region (except Sagaing Region) are outdated. The flags are with colour backgrounds, the region seals at the centre, and the region names above the seal.
Yangon Region seal has been changed again in late September 2021.
To correct wrong colours
Naypyidaw Territory flag is with sky blue background (not white) and (without English name)
Not much I can do here; this is not an area of expertise for me. North America1000 09:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Northamerica1000:
Because I've seen you recently edited articles about regions. Sorry for mentioning. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 09:36, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I don't mind at all. Thanks for the notification. North America1000 09:52, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Now I noticed that the Wiki's flags are outdated for so long. Most Regions' flags have been changed twice. The 2014 Regions and States Sport Tournament news photos show that the first flag changes happened before 2014.
နေနီဝန်း (talk) 15:44, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for all this research, I think we need to find the official government notice (ပြန်တမ်း) about the official region flag changing. Changing Facebook profile picture, sadly, is not a good enough source. I see that it is being used and that's certainly a start. Happy to draw some of them later, but for wikipedia copyright we will have to redraw the seals ourselves. I don't think we should remove all the flags while we find out more, draw flags and fix it. You should instead add a note that the flag is outdated. I will revert your changes later if you don't disagree with this reasoning. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 21:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @EmeraldRange:. Don't you see? I did give the sources with news photos (including government's MDN) and regional government website. Not just Facebook. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 00:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was focused on Ayeyarwaddy Region and didnt look at the Yangon ones. But still, point stands for Ayeyarwaddy and some other regions. ပြန်တမ်း is the official list of all rules passed by the government in any form, even including salary changes. I think official flag change would be on there. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 01:53, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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This flag also didn't appear in the 2014 States Regions Sport Tournament.[2][3][4] I am confident to say that that Kachin State flag is the green one among the appeared flags, because of these sources:
VoM(2019) , Burmese Kachin News(2020), and that this flag is still in use because of this source: (Myanmar National Post, 2022) [5][6]
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@နေနီဝန်း What do you think the emblem in the middle of new Kachin flag is? It seems to still match up with the Kachin flag in the link provided here, but all your pictures are too low resolution to see. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:34, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reply to @Ninjastrikers:: No. Many flags in that list are outdated due to recent changes, and estimated flag change dates' years are wrong.
• Both Ayeyarwaddy and Mandalay changed their flags' background to blue field but seem to be maintained charged seals, may be in late 2021 or early 2022 (not sure). Their flags shown in that list are direct predecessors to the current flags.
• (May be) in circa November 2021, Yangon Region flag have changed to a yellow-green-red tricolour (the same background as the union flag but) with a charged emblem (similar to the recently changed region seal, but not with exact same design) in the centre (flag seen in 2022)(Seal update in 2021 November), I am sure that the bottom of the charged emblem in the flag is a white ribbon with text "ရန်ကုန်တိုင်းဒေသကြီးအစိုးရ". The flag shown in that list is outdated, but I'm not sure it is the direct predecessor of current flag as there are several flags of Yangon (and Bago) appeared between 2010 and 2022.
• The date of the end of usage of old flags (shown in the left side in that lists) of Thanintharyi and Mandalay may be in circa 2010, instead of c. 2016, because that changed flags were seen in 2014 Tournament and the region names changed in 2010.
For the Magway's flag, the flag with only text "မကွေးတိုင်း" had been replaced by a new one since circa 2010, and so it is not the direct predecessor of current flag. The c.2010–c.2016 flag of Magway is with yellow background and a seal ("not the same' as current one).(2018)(2014)(2014) • Most Regions seem to change their flags several times only within a few years. Especially, the previous flags (2010–2021) of Yangon, Magway and Bago are mysterious as there are several flag changes within just one or two years. (I'll write about them in another comment.)
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Reply to @EmeraldRange:, I haven't seen any ပြန်တမ်း about the changes of regions and states. Only the 2018 Mon State flag change and the 2019 Sagaing Region flag change were discussed, approved, and adopted by State/Region Hluttaws. But other flags' changes seem to be changed without discussing in Hluttaw, and without public announcement. (The first flag change of Sagaing Region flag in circa 2010 was also without them.)
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Currently, I've made [:File:Flag of Sagaing Region (2010-2019).jpg|Sagaing's c.2010–2019 flag] and corrected [:File:Flag of Naypyidaw Union Territory.png|Naypyitaw's flag]. I can't and don't know how to create vector svg, I can only do and edit png and jpg with PicsArt, and need help from external websites to convert to svg if needed. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 16:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for going through the ပြန်တမ်း။ My worry is that these are unofficial flags or just used for specific events (like the recent Chinese province flags that are not official at all). Thanks for looking in Ayeyarwaddy too. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 17:10, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
, the sun and its rays should be red. (Why did someone think Wa sun be white?) •••• Sorry for requesting your help, I totally don't know about svg. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 17:13, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply] •••••••
Yeah that should be easy to fix. I've also uploaded the new Ayeyarwady Region flag Flag of Ayeyarwady RegionEmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 21:19, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see more examples of it as triangles UWSA WSTV video, UWSA WSTV video #2, photography by Bryan Dickle as well as a photo on russian site wikipedia don't let me link. I also found other one or two other photos with the rectangular sun rays and some lower resolution that seem to just be thin straight lines. However, vast majority of flags are too small resolution to see clearly. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 03:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As there is no official release about the flags and seals, it is hard to clarify the details. Ninja✮Strikers«☎» 07:51, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
•••• @EmeraldRange:,@Ninjastrikers:. The 2010–2021 flags of most regions are mysterious. Yangon and Bago changed a lot of flags in a short period. (Those of Mandalay and Ayeyarwaddy are quite easy as they have just background colour difference from current ones.) နေနီဝန်း (talk) 11:59, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply] ••••
What do you mean for changing background colour? White for the 2010-2021 version? Feel free to do so cuz its public domain lol EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 18:21, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I just misread your comment. I will change the colours and make svg versions for 2010-2021. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 18:38, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think "current flag" (facing left) might just be a variant unless there's something about changing it. Added the svg of the 2010-2021 one. If anyone has the skill to make the Naga in vector that'd be greatly appreciated. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 02:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@EmeraldRange: Old (I mean 2010-202?) flags still appear in MRTV News on 7 January 2022. The red flag of Mandalay, the white flag of Ayeyarwady and so on are visible together on 11 January 2022. Can we assume the date of recent flag change as late January 2022 or early February 2022? နေနီဝန်း (talk) 09:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Those flags used before 1885 (national, royal, military, etc.)[edit]
I request everyone, who interested in vexillology, can draw and can create svg files, to create news flag files or edit wrong flag files about the flag used in monarchic and imperialist Myanmar. Most of these flags I see in Wiki are with wrong symbols or missing important symbols.
National flag(s)
white field, green peacock There are history records and books written in Burmese say that most Burmese dynasties used the flag with white field and green peacock as the national flag, don't know the exact date of first adoption date, but there are records saying that the earliest usage was during the time of the king 2nd Min Khaung (842–843 ME).
white field, red disk and green peacock or red peacock A history record about the First Anglo-Burmese War mentions that on 10th waxing day of Nattaw of 1188 ME, the English flag in Yangon was lowered and replaced by the Burmese flag which is "white cloth, length of nine Taung, width of six Taung, inserted red at the centre, figure of peacock biting a flower branch, gold coated at the top". The record also mentioned that "placed as the same as it was placed before".
In this flag file, flower branch should be added as bitten by the peacock
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I love this. I've been trying to find a proper source ever since someone tried to make their own. Can you link or find the source of that record? Happy to make this flag and upload it later this week. One important thing I want to mention is that the swallowtail like in the picture you used was used by the Portuguese mercenaries and not part of the actual Konbaung flags. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 21:34, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This flag is said to have the yellow circle representing the sun, and 7 figures in 7 colors for the 7 most powerful animals of the universe. The colours and figures are :
1. Gold — Hanuman carrying king's dagger on the shoulder
2. White — Garuda swooping
3. Yellow — Rakshasa carrying king's dagger on the shoulder
4. Black — Peacock dancing
5. Green — Lion roaring
6. Red — Elephant stabbing
7. Pale colour — Nāga coiling and haughty
Royal Standards (may be)
There are seven flags (including the one similar to this sample: ), with those 7 colours and 7 figures.
War flag
There are several war flags, with non-rectangular shape, that could be created. It seems that modern Myanmar Army Flag is based on one of these flag.
Boat Flag
A flag is attached to sail of boats, to indicate the direction of wind. It is known as Kokkalan.
There are also many unidentified flags.
You can use the followings as reference:
The picture drawings of flag drawn by U Ngwe Gaing on 20 May 1952, by copying the flag figures from ancient accordion folds stored at London, British Library, Oriental Department, Library.
Hey @EmeraldRange:. Firstly, you should write your own reply at the bottom of the discussion, instead of editting other's comment. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 23:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think your comment is very long haha. You should edit into sections. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 23:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The swallowtail flag is mentioned as the national flag by the following sources:
• from Page 6, Part 2, Treatise about State Seals and State Flags Used Through Successive Periods In Myanmar, Presenter = Yi Yi Nyunt, Director, Nationalities Youth Resources Development Degree College Sagaing, Department of Education and Practising, Ministry of Border Affairs, Republic of the Union of Myanmar
• Myanmar State History written by Bamaw Tin Aung • Myanmar's Historical Flags and Myanmar's Leaders •
Tatmadaw History (Part 1)(1824–1945) published by Directorate of Public Relation and Psychological Warfare
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Hey @EmeraldRange: . Come and see.
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Good to know! I was wrong about swallowtail for sure. Yeah, I've definitely read the Burmese wikipedia page but I'm pretty sure original မှန်နန်းရာဇဝင် does not have the flag description though. But I'm happy to go with Thakin Ko Daw Hmaing's description. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 02:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@နေနီဝန်း One thing while actually making it. Thakin Ko Daw Hmaing's description says that it is in the center of 9x6, which seem to imply it's not swallowtail in that description. - EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 03:09, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Can anyone change peacock in these: to be more similar to this one ?
According to the above sources I mentioned, the peacock is biting a flower branch.
°°°°°° Hi Samhanin , Albert Poliakoff , Gryffindor . Come take part in this discussion. You should have responsibility for the ones you created.
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Yes, I'm working on drawing a new peacock, but it will take a few days. I always dont like that existing style EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 17:47, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@နေနီဝန်း I uploaded the new version of the flag based on your sources as an update to @Albert Poliakoff's versions on the same URL
Thanks you @EmeraldRange:.
"'အလယ်အနီသွတ် ဥဒေါင်းရုပ်ပန်းခက်ကိုက် အထွတ်ရွှေထည်" : Doneနေနီဝန်း (talk) 04:28, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Albert PoliakoffI saw you edit the flag to remove the gold. I think the gold coating is mentioned as being "gold coated at the top". I don't know if it would be swallowtail but @နေနီဝန်း is very confident about it. Please discuss. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 20:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
•••••••••• @Albert Poliakoff: , @EmeraldRange: .
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The swallowtail depicted in these books do not have gold coated on top : [14],[15],[16],[17] --- A stamp issued on 2 March 1974 shows eight flags, including the swallowtail flag in which the peacock is red without the red circle and the flag pole has finial of gold spear.
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Thus, I think that "အထွတ်ရွှေထည်" may mean "finial made of gold", rather than "gold coated at the top".
--- Thanks you for your creation and contribution.
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Albert Poliakoff can't access this page without VPN. We discussed on my talk page in wikimedia commons, but yea we all agree that it should not have gold on the flag itself. Also, that is an amazing find of a stamp. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 16:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thai might be careful on details for such a movie showing their important history, so I wonder if they have any record about that. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 19:54, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@နေနီဝန်း I see you already added the flag lol. I wanted to verify before I clean up in svg but I don't think we can verify besides asking the film director. even then not really a wikipedia source. I don't personally object to using it but hoping to find more source EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 03:05, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@နေနီဝန်း: Some issues/comments about the military flags:
The ceremonial Guidon for the Army is also used s a guidon to signify the Commander-in-Chief (Army). Same for Navy and Air Force
Every division has its own flag, not just LIDs. Bureau of Special Investigation is an example. Here's a photo of a flag from 409 division. General officers are called "flag officers" - the units that they command have unique flags. A normal division flag made into a guidon signifies the commanding general - usually a brigadier-general or major-general. I don't think LIDs are worth having a section. If we include every division and their guidon variant, the page will be very long. I would suggest a new article: List of Burmese military division flags if you want to list all the divisions in flag format.EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 11:32, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
••••••••••• @EmeraldRange:. International Flag Book in Colour (Pedersen, Christian Fogd (1971). Bedells, John (ed.). The International Flag Book in Colour. London. p. 72. ISBN07137 0536 1.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)) shows as Commander-in-Chief of the Army. Note that the star design is different from .
For the LIDs, I will remove all except one and show that one as example. Thanks for your advice. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 12:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply] ••••••
By the way, I don't know much about military things. Please. Can you help to check and clear the section "Military flags"? နေနီဝန်း (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The rest of the flags there are fine, I'll add that စစစ flag into Law enforcement. If you want to make a separate list for military flags let me know. I think for now I've put the LID flags back as a collapsible table instead. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 15:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Continued disruptive editing and edit warring[edit]
Santiago Ríos Undurraga continuously added unrelated flags. Particularly, he seems to be just wanting to claim that "Myanmar was a colony of Thailand, because Thailand ruled a part of Shan State". He also added other flags such as "the Flag of The Azad Hind" just because its capital in exile was Yangon. If you think that his claims are appropriate and acceptable, then
Add Hanthawadyy Kingdom's flag as a historical national flag in List of Thai flags, because almost all area of Thailand was actually owned by the Second Burmese Empire of Hanthawadyy Kingdom.
Add Hanthawadyy Kingdom's flag and all the flags of Konbaung Dynasty as historical national flag, war flags and royal standards in the List of Indian flags, because some Indian states such as Assam and Manipura were parts of Burmese Impires of dynasties.
Add all the flags of Konbaung Dynasty as historical national flag, war flags and royal standards in the List of Thai flags, because Burmese troops won the war on Ayutthaya and destroyed it, and the maps from History Textbooks taught in Myanmar schools claim that the whole Thailand is the territory owned by Konbaung kings.
Add 1948–1974 Myanmar national flag as a historical national flag in the List of flags of the United States because NCGUB exiled in US and used that flags in occasions.
•••••••••••••• I've warned him not to do so in his talk page: User talk:Santiago Ríos Undurraga on 21 March 2022. But he continued to disrupt and add the ones that were removed, (:See all of the History of this article) thus triggering an edit war or wars. နေနီဝန်း (talk) 12:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@နေနီဝန်း Good news, Independence Day parade confirms most of the flags from last year. Bad news, three of them look different. Bago is light blue, Tanintharyi is green and Mandalay is back to the red flag. I'm inclined to argue that Mandalay never changed from the 2010-2022 flag and that there was just a variant used last year. thoguhts?
EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 19:06, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@EmeraldRange, @နေနီဝန်း, flags of States and Regions are decorated along the Pyay Road for the Independence Day and I just took photos of them. According to them, we need to adjust the flags of Bago, Mandalay, Magway and Kayah's flags. I don't know why they still use the old Bago flag with the text "ပဲခူးတိုင်း". The size of Kinnara from Kayah's flag is large and covers all three color stripes. For Magway, the background circle use the seal of Magway Government and added the line "မကွေးတိုင်းဒေသကြီး" in green. Ninja✮Strikers«☎» 06:35, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting to see that Tanintharyi didn't change. Any thoughts on removing the current blue-background Mandalay flag entirely? If the only time the blue background was used was in last year's parade, I'm inclined to say it was a variant and make the 2010 version the 2010-present version.
Thank you again to @Albert Poliakoff for updating Kayah and Magway so quickly.
Sorry, to clarify I meant within Wikipedia on this page. Not to delete the file on Commons. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 14:37, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reverted Ayeyarwady: From the photos of the Independence Day parade, the light blue is still being used. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 16:41, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
also didn't appear in the 2014 States Regions Sport Tournament.[2][3][4] I am confident to say that that Kachin State flag is the green one among the appeared flags, because of these sources:
VoM(2019) , Burmese Kachin News(2020), and that this flag is still in use because of this source: (Myanmar National Post, 2022) [5][6]
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