Talk:Kurt Student

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Kurt Student did not rescue Mussolini from Gran Sasso. SS Obersturmbahnfuherer Otto Skorzeny spearheaded the rescue.

(read: 'Obersturmbannführer' or 'Obersturmbannfuehrer' instead of 'Obersturmbahnfuherer' --Wolf4 (talk) 14:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC))

More like Skorzeny tagged along with a handful of SS men and then took credit for the whole operation that the Luftwaffe had planned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.235.31.191 (talk) 21:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I edited the article to add more information on Student in the interwar period,but I'm not exactly sure how to cite sources, so I'm going to list them here:I used www.eagle19.freeserve.co.uk/student.htm, as well as an article called, "The Father of Airborne Warfare" by William E. Welsh from World War 2 magazine, which I retrieved through Ebscohost.Some of the information can be confirmed on Axis Biographical Research's [www.geocities.com/~orion47/]page on Kurt Student.I also meant to put 'fallschrimjager' in italics, but it didn't work. Filippo Argenti 22:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

(read: 'Fallschirmjäger' or 'Fallschirmjaeger' instead of 'fallschrimjager' --Wolf4 (talk) 14:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC))

There seems to be a discrepancy between this article and the ones on Gotthard Heinrici and the Battle of Berlin, both of which say that Student assumed control of the military after Heinrici was dismissed. If that was the case, then he could not have been captured in Schleswig-Holstein. Discuss?

What happend to him afther the WW2?

Birthplace

The German WP says he was born in Birkholz, presumably the one in the Province of Saxony, now part of Saxony-Anhalt. This link says he was born in Birkholz, de:Landkreis Züllichau-Schwiebus, part of the Province of Brandenburg. This book mentions Birkholz, Brandenburg (East Prussia); possibly a reference to Ushakovo? Olessi (talk) 07:37, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Wounded in Holland

The book "Behind Enemy Lines" has a detailed description of the sniper shooting of two German Officers on a bridge near Rotterdamn by Dutch Corporal Ernst van der Veen, one officer purportedly being General Student. It is claimed that Hitler ordered the bombing of Rotterdam in retaliation. 122.57.24.148 (talk) 13:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC) Brandon Hutchison 18 August 2021 I have added a request for references for his head wound during the Battle of Rotterdam. The Dutch version of this article, says that Student is shot bij de German soldier. Unfortunately without any sources. In this article it is stated that he was shot bij a sniper, again without sources. Unless the sniper was a German sniper, what is highly unlikely, there is a conflict between the two stories. Which one is correct? Eddylandzaat (talk) 19:00, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

• German wiki states that he was hit by a ricócheting bullet, most likely fired by Waffen-SS units who shot the countryside. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.135.183.198 (talk) 16:05, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Reprisal order

The entire transcript of the Student's order is not needed. It should be included in the articles actually concerning the war crimes committed on Crete in 1941: Massacre of Kondomari, Razing of Kandanos, Alikianos executions

His actual order read:

It is certain that the civilian population including women and boys have taken part in the fighting, committed sabotage, mutilated and killed wounded soldiers. It is therefore high time to combat all cases of this kind, to undertake reprisals and punitive expeditions which must be carried through with exemplary terror. The harshest measures must indeed be taken and I order the following: shooting for all cases of proven cruelty, and I wish this to be done by the same units who have suffered such atrocities.

The following reprisals will be taken:
1. Shooting
2. Fines
3. Total destruction of villages by burning
4. Extermination of the male population of the territory in question

My authority will be necessary for measures under 3 and 4. All these measures must, however, be taken rapidly and omitting all formalities. In view of the circumstances the troops have a right to this and there is no need for military tribunals to judge beasts and assassins.

Meeepmep (talk) 20:18, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

References

Nevertheless, it seems the article is wrong to say that Student was ever charged with these massacres, let alone acquitted on the evidence of Brigadier Inglis. That did not happen. Student's trial at the British military court at Luneburg on 6-10 May 1946 related solely to mistreatment and murders of British PoWs. https://www.legal-tools.org/doc/c27375/pdf/ It may be that matters involving Greek civilians were beyond the court's remit. Franz-Peter Weixler, the Reich war correspondent who took the chilling photographs of the Kondomari massacre, had already provided the photographs and written testimony to the international court at Nuremberg for the prosecution of Hermann Goering, who had seemingly ordered Student to carry out such 'reprisals'. https://neoskosmos.com/en/2018/10/12/features/remembering-the-kondomari-massacre/ There might have been an issue in that the Luneburg court could not pre-empt or prejudice the final ruling of the Nuremberg court. But at any rate Student was never charged in that connection. Inglis gave evidence for the defence on the fourth and fifth charges (related to the bombing of No.7 General Hospital at Galatos on 24 May 1941 and the use of British PoWs, staff and patients of the hospital, as a 'screen' for a German attack on that date), and Student was acquitted, but this had nothing to do with the massacres of civilians. Khamba Tendal (talk) 18:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)