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Störtebeker, born in Wismar, was a famous German pirate of the Middle Ages. He was rather popular because people regarded him as being a kind of avenger of the poor. When Stockholm was under siege in the late 14th century, his pirate organisation supplied the city with food they had stolen from merchant ships of the wealthy Hanse trade organization. Störtebeker was eventually captured and executed in Hamburg in 1401.

hi, is there any evidence for that: "When the performance estimates of the B-29 Superfortress first started reaching German ears in late 1942, panic broke out in the Luftwaffe."?

is it not more scientific like this: "The Ju-388 was a response to urgent demands in 1943, as the air war over Germany increased in ferocity, for very much higher ceiling, speed, and payload. The new design anticipated future arrival over Germany of the new American B-29 bomber, expected to attack from above 35,000 ft." ?

source: http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/junkers_388.htm

at least this is deleted: "A meeting was called at the Messerschmitt factory in Augsburg, and an answer was hammered out. The fighter solution quickly settled on the Focke-Wulf Ta 152H, based on the already successful Fw 190D's with longer wings and the high-altitude E model of the Junkers Jumo 213 engine. A back-up in the form of the Messerschmitt Me 155B would also be funded at a lower priority."

hard to imagine how a meeting at the "messerschmitt factory" can result in a Ta 152 and a Ju 388...

lumino

Ju 388[edit]

This article reads like completely coming from the (very unreliable) literature. Did you use any files from archives? If not, then it it is necessary be very careful. Files from the Bundesarchiv/Militärarchiv Freiburg tell a different story: There has not been any series production for the Ju 388 J-1, there was only 1 K-1 built by ATG in Juley 1944, the L-1 had 69 built from June 1944 to February 1945, but no L-2. I could also not find any hints that the Ju 388 was used operationally. Some planes were delivered to Rechlin or to Chef Technische Luftrüstung for evaluation, but most went to works for installation of equipment, but from these works only two were completed.

Hoping to hear from you

Diethelm Duck

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Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

YB-29 Hobo Queen and the UK visit[edit]

It is unfeasable that HQ made the visit to the UK in 42. That was only the period of the second test flight, and that was in Dec. in the States, and it ended with an engine fire. I have seen photographs and datings which put the visit at around Jan 44. It was a disinformation move on the part of the Allies from what I have read. Will dig around for sources confirming this. Any input welcome Irondome (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If 41-36963 is the same aircraft that was later named Hobo Queen then it visited the UK arriving at St Mawgan on 6 March 1944 and then left for North Africa I believe on the 1 April 1944. It visited bases in East Anglia during its visit so here for an image of the aircraft at Glatton. http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?40981-First-B-29-in-Europe&highlight=b-29%20uk most of the information from blogs and such like so nothing citable. MilborneOne (talk) 22:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That was exactly the source I was looking at a few hours ago. I was thinking of the same issues re RS so refrained from adding. There must be something out there we can use. Its an interesting sidelight. It would also be great if we could locate the VB article. Would be fascinating to see how it was pitched. Maybe there is someone on the German Wiki who could help here. Irondome (talk) 23:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

article needs attention[edit]

Portions of this article seem to depend on very questionable sources. Often no sources at all are listed. I've removed the worst stuff in the article (claims about operations over the UK, claims that Japan "operated" it, claims that one was shot down by a spitfire). But there is a whole lot more bad stuff in there I think. 12.12.144.130 (talk) 18:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]