Talk:Die Young

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Userbox[edit]

Is there any userbox that says this user is Kesha Fan or something.Please help. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 14:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Debut in 2010[edit]

Those of us who've followed Kesha's career know that "Tik Tok" debuted in 2009. The sentence in the lead that reappears later under "Chart performance" cites Billboard as saying that her "Tik Tok" debut occurred in 2010. This needs to be addressed because it's been reverted on numerous occasions. Yes, "Tik Tok" was released in 2009, but it did not become a top ten hit until January 2, 2010, making her official debut as a top-ten hit artist for this chart 2010, not 2009. Kesha's chart history at Billboard.com verifies this: http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/artist/ke-ha/chart-history/1308564 --Thevampireashlee (talk) 03:41, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hate[edit]

nothing about that song is exposed to hatred, because people associate it with school shooting?--80.161.143.239 (talk) 14:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Critical Reception[edit]

I still think the reception to the song, overall, has been mixed to positive. As I noted in my edit summary, the song received positive reviews from Seventeen, Rolling Stone, Perez Hilton (who probably isn't a very good source but is cited in the article nonetheless), Contactmusic, Vibe, Pop Crush, Stereogum, Entertainment Weekly, About.com, and Pazz n Jop] and mixed reviews from: Billboard, Idolator, Spin, and possibly LA Times and MTV. However, User:thevampireashlee has twice reverted these edits to simply "mixed," claiming that these edits are "puffery" and "attempts to elevate this beyond what is already proven," whatever that means. The song received more positive reviews than anything and no outright negative reviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamZR (talk • contribs) 07:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy theory[edit]

FYI, this song has been incorporated into some of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting conspiracy theories. Even before that it was being criticized for its "Illuminati" symbolism, but now some say they can hear "Sandy Hook" in a backmask. So far I haven't found this in an RS (and how can one have an RS of conspiracy theories?) but it could be something to look into.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 01:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the places where these charges have been made: Pre Sandy Hook Song DIE YOUNG by Kesha Clearly Says "Sandy Hook" When Played Backwards , You Tube warning from Adam Lanza (Trolley Rulle)- 2 days BEFORE Sandy Hook (ref. Ke$ha-die young) and before Sandy Hook but anti-"Illuminati" Ke$ha tells Youth to Die Young! (illuminati) --Bellerophon5685 (talk) 01:17, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources aren't likely to publish this sort of thing unless it's to dismiss any conspiracy allegations, such as was the instance with the article written by Billboard. Additionally, this type of information is generally regarded as pseudoscience Wikipedia standards and is almost always omitted on those grounds alone. I'm surprised the article from Billboard wasn't contested for removal, despite it's extreme notability. For now, the only "reliable" link between the song and Sandy Hooks is the drop in airplay the song received due to parents feeling offended by the lyrics. I created this article, contributed the bulk of the information here, and watch it regularly. I would recommend discussing any changes linked to conspiracy theories and pseudoscience here for adding it to the article. I would also like to remind you that this talk page exists solely for the purpose of improving the article; in other words, this is not a forum topic about the song or conspiracy theories ( no matter how much I believe they are true! :D ) --Thevampireashlee (talk) 07:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Certification[edit]

When I enter to the citation of the RIAA certification it doesn't apear the Die Young certification,but its obviously that have a certification and when I search. ke$ha in the page it doesn't appear, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pablogarciadaz (talk • contribs) 03:39, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sampling[edit]

I think the song samples this a lot of the way through. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.54.65.52 (talk) 04:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 29 October 2019[edit]

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– Kesha's song takes priority over all the other topics combined.[1] Unreal7 (talk) 20:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. It does appear that Kesha's song is the primary topic with substantially more page views than other contenders put together. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:23, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Die Young (Black Sabbath song) may not be as well known to younger readers, but really what is so terrible about Die Young (Kesha song) having the artist name? Will removing the artist name help Kesha fans find it? Doubt that either of these songs has the long term notability to meet second criteria. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:35, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
1. Not relevant.
2. Who said anything about "terrible"? It's the primary topic.
3. Yes.
4. Well, one already has. Unreal7 (talk) 18:16, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Calidum 18:46, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom's page view stats link and strong policy-based rebuttal to the only oppose, which is not policy-based at all. --В²C ☎ 21:16, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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